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The Terminator 1985

The Terminator
1985
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Arnold Schwarzenegger / Michael Biehn / Linda Hamilton / Paul Winfield / Lance Henriksen / Rick Rossovich / Bess Motta / Earl Boen / Dick Miller / Shawn Schepps
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UK box office

  • Debut box office: 11th Jan '85
  • Debut position: 2
  • Highest position: 2
  • Debut gross: £238 Thousand
  • Total chart weeks: 14

US box office

  • Box Office debut: 16th Nov '84
  • Debut position: 4
  • Highest position: 3
  • Debut gross: $2.8 Million
  • Total chart weeks: 2
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15 age rating
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UK total gross
United Kingdom Flag  £765 Thousand
US total gross
United States Flag  $38.4 Million
Global total gross
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A Brief History of the Terminator Films

The original Terminator film came out of no-where, it was the second film by the young fledgeling director James Cameron and it was fresh and exciting and had a story that was clever and captivated audiences.

The follow up came 6 years later and with the hype and incredible (for the time) special effects the film was going to be a hit, Arnold Schwarzenegger was at the height of his fame.

Terminator 2: Judgement Day was a massive box office hit, which had a good story, despite some plot holes, with over the top exciting action and it went on to gross over $500 Million globally which adjusted for inflation would be about $1.2 Billion today.

After that the rights to the franchise moved all over the place, then in 2003 we suddenly got Terminator 3: Rise Of THe Machine, and despite the film having fairly good reviews, starring Schwarzenegger and grossing over $400 Million globally it felt more like a stand alone movie than part of the series.

Then the big trouble started and we got Terminator Salvation in 2009, directed by McG and starring Christian Bale the film reportedly had a very troubled shoot and with Schwarzenegger on California Governor duties he didn't star just appearing as a computer generated Terminator towards the end for a brief second or 2.

Despite this negativity of both the film and the plot it still grossed nearly $400 Million, but the series was stagnating and each film was grossing less and less as each film went on.

The series needed a reboot and in 2015 Schwarzenegger came back and director Alan Taylor tried to get a feeling of the origin film in a reboot that mixed the story from The Terminator changing the time line and creating a new path for the series, but things were too confusing and the film flopped and talk of a followup ended.

So Why Did Terminator: Dark Fate Fail?

It must have seemed like the ideal situation, bring back Schwarzenegger, bring back Linda Hamilton as the original Sarah Connor, and to top it off bring back the original creator James Cameron to write the story and produce the movie, he's too busy directing Avatar 2 so passed that duty off to Deadpool director Tim Miller.

What we have here then is series fatigue, after the 2015 reboot promise the paying public and fans have simply lost hope in trying to get a film which brings back the memory of the first 2 films, Dark Fate does not do this.

Then we have the talent, Arnold Schwarzenegger is no where near the star he was in 1991, arguably the biggest, and he is no longer the mean looking muscle machine he once was, then Linda Hamilton who rarely appears in films these days so do audiences know who she is or connect with her? Then James Cameron, after Avatar, which granted was the biggest film ever until this year, is hardly a household name anymore, these elements don't make for a must see movie.

The original 1984 story has now been told again and again in the Terminator movies, how many time can the story of a robot sent from the future to kill someone who is in turn protected by another person/machine sent from the same future, despite how much you mix things up, audiences are clearly bored of this rehashing in each reboot.

Special effects today have to have the WOW factor to sell a movie, Terminator 2 had it, but its harder to do in a day and age when almost anything is possible and sadly Dark Fate simply fails to have it.

The film reportedly had a troubled post production with director Miller and writer/producer Cameron disagreeing over the edit, and it shows, it leaves you feeling like you have just watched a disjointed movie when you leave the cinema.

Finally, and maybe this is a personal thing, the title, Dark Fate is a bit cheesy and doesn't come close to Judgment Day or even Salvation, Rise of the Machines was even a good sub title. A title shouldn't matter but it has got to sell the film, Genisys was not good and Dark Fate is even worse.

End of the Franchise?

The movie will struggle to make $300 Million at the global box office, this in a day and age when tentpole movie are expected to take over a Billion is not good enough, the series future is looking bleak and it could be this is the last nail in the coffin.

There is one last hope that might bring the series back! If James Cameron can find a story somewhere within that is different but keeps within the Terminator universe, and if he decides to direct the movie himself we may just get a 7th movie, its a big ask with his involvement in the Avatar films, but this might mean we get a good few year before another movie, no bad thing.

Like many other long running series, Alien for example, the series won't just lie back and enjoy the success it's had, we most likely will see another movie in the series but it will be for another generation, and once we have forgotten the bad box office run of Terminator: Dark Fate.

Matt Damon and Christian Bale star in the racing drama Ford V Ferrari this week which makes its way to the top of the global box office which the Charlie's Angels Reboot also makes a high debut while Terminator: Dark Fate takes a heavy fall.

Ford V Ferrari

Directed by James Mangold this racing drama makes its debut at the top of the global box office with ease taking $52.4 Million over the weekend from 42 countries.

The film got decent reviews from critics which will have helped although during a very quite November for the global box office its a lot total for a number one film.

Charlie's Angels

The movie reboot no-one asked for directed by Elizabeth Banks makes its debut at number 2 on the global box office with $27.9 Million from only 27 countries.

The film didn;t set the box office alight and with mixed reviews from critics we could see this disappear quickly.

Joker

The DC villain movie starring Joaquin Phoenix and Robert De Niro is at 3 this week and takes $18.6 Million over its 7th weekend of release from a large 80 countries.

This pushes the film past the incredible $1 Billion mark at the global box office, a feat which before release seemed very unlikely.

Maleficent: Mistress of Evil

Disney's tentpose sequel movie has been a slow burner but the Angelina Jolie movie this week takes $17 Million from 54 countries on its 5th weekend for a total gross of $458 Million.

Last Christmas

The Christmas movie directed by Paul Feig falls to number 5 on its 2nd weekend with $15.3 Million from 22 countries for a $35.5 Million total.

Terminator: Dark Fate

Rebooting movies with original stars clearly does not always work and the Terminator series is a prime example as the new movie falls from the top where it spent 2 weeks to number 6, the film total take is just $233.6 Million after 3 weeks.

Terminator: Dark Fate manages to stay at the top of the global box office this weekend despite a very strong challenge from new film Midway which made its debut at number 2.

Terminator: Dark Fate

The box office figures for the latest Terminator movie have not been anywhere near what the film makers would have wanted, but the movie does manage a second weekend at the top of the global box office with $40.7 Million from 54 countries.

This pushes the films total global gross to $199.3 Million, and with the film loosing audiences around the world this will end up as the lowest grossing sequel of the Terminator series, and maybe mark the end.

Midway

Making its box office debut at number 2 is the Roland Emmerich directed World War II drama which narrowly misses out on the top spot with $39 Million from 21 countries.

The film has mixed reviews across the board and a short stay seems like especially as we his a very busy December with some big movie releases.

Joker

The DC Villain movie which has far passed all expectation is getting close to the magical $1 Billion mark at the global box office.

This weekend it is at number 3 and takes $29.5 Million from a still massively wide 80 countries which puts its total global gross at $984.6 Million, it will bet to $1 Billion by next weekend.

Maleficent: Mistress of Evil

Disney's autumn sequel movie moves down to 4 with a slim drop and takes $27.9 Million for the weekend pushing its total gross to $430.3 Million.

Doctor Sleep

The sequel to The Shining has not done as well as expected and this week falls to 5 with $27.1 Million from 69 countries pushing the total global gross to $34.1 Million.

Director Todd Phillips movie Joker is proving that not all thing superhero has to be Disney as the movie spends a 5th weekend at the top, while the animated movie The Addams Family makes a very rare move on the chart and Doctor Sleep makes its debut lower than expected.

Joker

The Joaquin Phoenix starring movie spends a 5th weekend at the top of the box office, the most in 2019, with a weekend gross of £2.5 Million, yet again a very slim drop from the previous week.

Admittedly this is not the summer where weekend grosses are much higher but this is still an massive achievement and the film has been a monster hit for the DC Universe and Warner Bros.

The movies total gross in the UK is now £51.5 Million, it is the 4th highest grossing film of 2019 and is now the 35th highest grossing film ever.

The Addams Family

After a fairly low debut of number 4 last weekend the animated film based on the 60's TV show makes the unprecedented move of not only going up the chart to number 2 but also taking more money than its debut.

It was a school holiday which will have helped the movie but a weekend gross of £2.2 Million is more than £100,000 more than last week.

The film has a total gross of £6.9 Million.

Interesting to note that over the week Monday - Sunday it actually beat Joker in week grosses by a slim margin.

Maleficent: Mistress of Evil

Disneys sequel movie falls to 3 this weekend with £1.8 Million for a total gross of £11.6 Million after 3 weeks of release.

Doctor Sleep

Highest new film of the week is the long awaited sequel to Stanley Kubrick's cult classic The shining.

The movie is also based on a Stephen King book and after much publicity the movie makes is debut at number 4 with a weekend gross of £1.4 Million.

A lot lower than expectation, and with Halloween well and truly out of the way, the film may struggle over the coming months, especially with some big movie due for release over the rest of November and December.

Terminator: Dark Fate

Hailed as a return to form for the Terminator franchise the movie has simply not ignited the box office and on its second weekend it falls to number 4 with a weekend gross of £1.2 Million.

This means that after 2 weeks the film has taken just £5.3 Million, which is lower than the previous movie, Terminator Genisys, by a couple of million.

The movie is also not performing as well as expected across the world, does this mean that the Terminator franchise is dead? This film reportedly cost over $200 Million to make, not including marketing cost, will the studio still want to make more movie when this one looks like it will loose money?

Downton Abbey

The British TV show movie is at number 15 this weekend and has spent 8 weeks on the box office, the longest, and has a total UK gross of £27.7 Million.

At the start of the weekend the big money would have been on Terminator: Dark Fate to top the UK box office this weekend but the new franchise film actually came nowhere near Joker which easily keeps the top spot for a fourth straight week.

Joker

The Todd Philips directed movie has done far better at the box office than studio Warner Bros. could ever have expected and this week spends its fourth weekend at the top as its weekend grosses show no sign of slowing too much as it takes £3.5 Million over the weekend.

The films total UK gross is now at £46.7 Million after 4 weeks of release, this puts the film at number 4 on the 2019 top grossing films list, ahead of Disney bog hitter Captain Marvel.

The movie has also broken into the top 50 all time UK movies as it slides past 2017's The Greatest Showman to become the 48th top grossing film in the UK.

The movie is also the top total grossing film on the box office this weekend.

Terminator: Dark Fate

All hopes are on this movie to save the Terminator franchise since the disastrous box office performance of Terminator Genisys.

The new movie which brings Linda Hamilton's Sarah Connor back into the mix makes its debut at number 2, the same as Genisys, the bad news is that the film, 4 years later, can only bring in £2.8 Million, less than the £3.7 Million of the previous movie.

This is worrying for the franchise as this was, once again, supposed to re-boot the series and bring it back to the glory days of The Terminator and T2, but the signs suggest it could be dead before its arrived.

Maleficent: Mistress of Evil

Disney's high budget sequel falls to 3 this weekend with a gross of £2.1 Million, this takes the films total to £7.5 Million after 2 weeks of release.

On the Monday - Sunday weekly chart the film remains at number 2 having grossed £4.2 Million over the week.

The Addams Family

A new animated adaptation of the spooky, Kooky family hits the box office at number 4 this weekend with a debut gross of £2.1 Million.

A Shaun the Sheep Movie: Farmageddon

Falling to number 5 is the latest Aardman animated movie which takes £1 Million for the weekend and £3.3 Million in total after 2 weeks.

Downton Abbey

The movie about the posh British house is at number 15 this weekend, its has the longest run at 7 weeks and has taken £27.3 Million.